So it could basically run itself by the time you left?

Yes, and that's also a key. These things are more important actually. I think when it comes to Lifco because they find these jewels, small companies that are really good at what they do. They have a brand name and they know how to manage. A guy like Josef, for example, can control many. He started out as CEO of one company, then he became CEO of two and three, and then he became chairman. Since he knows exactly how they work, he can let somebody try. If that person is good, they get good pay. They're all numbers-driven. It's like an organism that's built in the same way.